Growing to the Fullness of the Stature of Christ

June 17, 2026
Growing to the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
Growing to the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
Growing to the Fullness of the Stature of Christ
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Faith doesn’t simply respond to what we see—it speaks according to what God has said. Using Romans 4 and the faith of Abraham, Jesse Duplantis challenges us to develop our “faith voice” by believing God’s Word and refusing to let doubt, circumstances, or time dictate what we say.

In this message, we learn that our faith voice is rooted in God’s promises and is willing to believe Him even when the situation seems impossible. Through biblical examples like Abraham and the Shunammite woman, we are challenged to speak in agreement with God, trust His Word, and expect Him to accomplish what He has promised. As we pray the Word, study the Word, and speak the Word, our faith grows stronger and our lives begin to reflect a confidence in what God has said.

Hi, this is Pastor Daniel Bracken. You're listening to Kings Alaska Podcast. I hope the Word encourages you and you get a touch from God that brings transformation and equips you to experience life with people, power and purpose. Thank you for joining us. Enjoy the Word.

You may be seated if you can. And if you can't, stand up, I don't care. It's always an honor to come. Dr. Morocco, I just talked to him a while ago. Let me tell you what we did today.

I would have been here yesterday, but Kathy wanted to preach this morning in New Orleans, so she preached this morning. And I have my own jet. Don't get mad at me. It fly fast. So we flew seven hours.

We hit here at 15 minutes to six, jumped in the car and came to Wasilla. Praise God. Thank God. We gained three hours.

Hallelujah. What a blessing of the Lord. And God has been so good and gracious. Such a high honor once again to allow us to come and stand behind your pulpit, minister, word of the Lord Jesus Christ. God is just doing marvelous things all over the world, and it's just such a blessing.

I get the opportunity to see it and I mean that. My wife is here. She wasn't with me last time. Kathy, come up here and say a word of 56 years. Come on, give her a hand clap.

Praise God with such a great joy to be with all of you here tonight. Just such a wonderful thing. We've met your pastors, of course. We've been with the Moroccos for a very long time. And I just feel like this is just another part of the family that I hadn't got a chance to meet.

But I just feel like I'm right at home because it's the spirit of God that's in the. In that whole organization or that whole church is just. Just kicking it up to another level over here. I just want to tell you, it is amazing. So wonderful.

We love the vision, love what God is doing, rejoice with you for the amazing miracle of the school. We are so happy to see what God is doing here in Wasilla. Amen. But it's just so wonderful to know Jesus and to know that no matter what happens in life, you put your hands in his hands, he leads and guides you. Amen.

I was just reading in the Scriptures in First Kings, chapter 17, how Elijah just heard from God and he just began to declare some things. He says, according to my word, it shall, shall not reign. You see, God gives us a word, but we have to speak it out. We have to Say what God's saying in our hearts. So you said God's going to give us a school and somebody had to speak out and say it.

No matter what it is that you're believing God for what he places in your heart, you have to be bold to declare it and expect it. Amen. And over the years, here it is. We're celebrating 50 years of ministry in our lives here and this. And we're not slowing down because God's a good God.

We're getting ready for another great year of doing all that God's called us to do. But I'm glad Jesse let me come because I wanted to meet all of you guys. How many people expecting something from the Lord tonight? I know we've already had a powerful move of the spirit, but I believe that we're here for a special time in the presence of God. So let's just enter in and expect.

Amen. Give her a hand clap. That's my wife, Catherine. Praise the Lord. It's such an honor.

And I mean, I enjoy the presence of the Lord. And people tell me all the time you never get sad. You're so full of joy. Well, I tried sad. I didn't like it.

I tried sick. That hurt. I tried broke. That's stupid. You know, I don't try nothing now.

I just do. And God is so good and great. Come quickly. We brought some material if you'd like to get some quickly. And God is so good.

And grace. I've heard it all is very good. Ladies and gentlemen, with this book here. Oh, God, I don't know how. I'm the first charismatic Pentecostal preacher crossover into the secular world.

This book became number three in the nation. Millions and millions and millions of dollars and things of that nature. And I gave that money to the Lord Jesus Christ. I went to heaven in 1988. Some people say I don't believe it.

I don't care whether you believe it or not. It don't make a lick of me. What? You don't shout me down when I'm preaching Good. You know you ain't gonna move me.

I'm moved by the spirit of God. It's called heaven. Close Encounters of the God of the God Kind. And the Lord told me this year to do a heaven tour. I don't very similar talk about this because it's so sacred to me.

I've had two directors and two producers offering me millions of dollars to make a movie on this cash. I told him, no, I don't think God gave me that Just to make money, you know, that's just the way I think. But anyway, it's back there if you'd like to get it. You'd also get it on DVD and all. Everything, any other kind of form, but the book has everything in it.

It's back there having close encounters of the God kind. And then I wrote a book about angels. I like angels. I think my. My guardian angel asked for reassignment several times because of me.

You know, I travel all over the world. I've been down in three airplane crashes. I've been shot at, you know, tried to get knife. They tried to electrocute me three times, two times, and I'm still here. And they all in jail.

Praise God. You know, you can count people, but you can't count angels. There's about 8 billion people on this planet. The angels are innumerable. And I want to make this announcement to everyone.

Every one of you has talked to an angel of God. You may not have realized it because the Bible says you've entertained angels unaware. It's called the Hidden Help. It's there all the time. It will bless you.

That's back there if you'd like to get that. And then this thing. Oh, yeah, you brought this. And praise the Lord. I preached this 45 years ago.

I wrote a book on it. It's the only time in my life it was 5,000 people in the tent. I was in Long Island, New York, first time. And the only time that I seen this, I had 1500 people jumping over chairs to get born again, falling in the sawdust. I mean, just going crazy.

And I preached, what in hell do you want? What does hell have to offer that? You willing to go to there to get it? Well, his boss has been with me 42 years and it's Fritz. And he was my first employer other than Kathy.

But to make a long story short, this man ran up to him at the book and tape table back there. He used to call him. That's when we had eight tracks and all that kind of stuff, you know. He said, give me that what the hell sermon. And Fritz kind of freaked out about.

He said, no, no, that's not the title. It's what in hell do you want? He said, whatever the hell it is, give it to me. Now. That's not custom in Louisiana.

That's a location. That's this. It will shake you to your shoes. It's back there. And then what else you got?

I was Christian and confirmed a Catholic. Boy, you know, if you're from New Orleans Louisiana. You got to be Catholic at least once. Anybody ever been Catholic? Here?

Hold your hand up. You've been Catholic. Put your hand down. How many of y' all went to confession? Hold your hand up.

Put your hand down. Put your hand down. How many of you told the truth? One, two. I lied like a dog in that confession booth.

I was trying to get out with three Hail Marys and three Our Fathers. You Protestants have no idea what I'm talking about, you know. And so I decided to write a book called Warning of God. You can talk to. They wouldn't let me talk to God.

I had a Sicilian priest said. He said. I called him Father. I said, father, I need to talk to God. He said, what's the matter with you?

You're not talking to God, you're talking to me. I said, well, do you talking to God? No, I don't talk to God. What I want to talk to you for? I need to get to the man.

And you know, I'm still Catholic. Well, I lost it right there, didn't I? Why did I trick you up? Catholic's grieving Jesus. Methodists believe in Jesus.

You don't have to agree to. You can agree to disagree on homiletical, hermeneutical, philosophical, theological thought. They didn't throw me out. I'm still Christian. Confirmed.

No, I hadn't. And I preach in Catholic churches, in Methodist Church, Episcopal Presbyterian, Church of God, Church of Christ, Word of Faith, Full Gospel, Assemblies of God, even Jewish synagogues.

Why? Why not? He said, come together in the unity of the faith. Didn't he say the unity of doctrine? Well, I lost that crowd.

Let me go over here. You see what I'm saying? That's right. I had one man told me not long ago. He said, I don't believe in speaking in tongues.

I said, don't worry about it. You never will.

He just looked at me. You don't believe in it, you're not going to get it. I'll tell our pastor when I tell you about this church, about the money. The biggest tool Satan uses is time.

Time. You see, if he can delay this, he'll make you quit praying and quit believing. That's his biggest tool. But why would you worry about time when you're a timeless being created in the image of God? This book will shake it to your shoes wanting a God I can talk to.

And that's how I talked to like, hello, Jesus. He said, hi, Jesse. I call him by his first name. I never called him Reverend Christ.

He's never called me Dr. Duplantis, he just called me Jesus. Called me Jesse. And I call him Jesus. It is such a blessing. How many of you brought your Bibles or your iPads or your telephones, whatever.

Go with me to the Book of Romans, chapter four real quickly. Kind of makes my Catholic days come upon me. See this handheld mike musing. I might got a lapel. It makes my Catholic watch this.

Now the Catholics know what I'm talking about. Throwing holy water on you. Praise God. Hallelujah. Hallelujah, Romans, chapter four.

And I was flying over and I had a lot of time to think about it. Kathy was sleeping on the couch and all that kind of stuff. And Lord said, I want you to preach your theme for 2026. And Pastor said it several times while he was ministering under the power of the Holy Ghost. But I want to reach Romans, chapter four, verse.

We'll start with verse 17. It says as. And I like the old King James version, as it is written, I have made thee a father, many nations before him whom believed, believed. Even God who quickeneth the dead and calleth those things which be not as though they were. And I added this to it until they are.

I want to talk about using your faith voice. You see, only say what faith says. Use your faith voice. When I talked to Dr. Morocco just a while ago, he said, are you still full of faith? I said, I'm squeezing it out of me.

Yeah. I've had many opportunities to fail. I just don't take any. Why would I do that? I'm not concerned about what the world's doing or what anybody.

I just occupy till he comes. And God is so good and gracious. If you use your faith voice. See, when he was flowing in the Holy Ghost, he's using the faith voice. When he laid hands on.

He gave you that prophecy using your faith voice when he spoke to me. Use his faith voice. Now you got a doubt voice, cursing voice, lying voice. Why don't you use your faith voice in everything? Yeah, but suppose it don't work.

Well, suppose it does. What you gonna do if it don't? What you gonna do if it does?

Let me tell you. If you learn to doubt your doubts, you won't be a doubt anymore. Because your doubts have been doubted. Because you learn to doubt your doubts, the only thing the devil can put in your mind is doubt. What you're gonna do with that?

Doubt it. Doubt.

You can confuse the devil easy. He's the author of confusion.

This. And I said this I believe. When I was here last Year I'm gonna say it again. A lot of devils start talking and he start talking to the devil. Listen, I put doubt in his mind and he doubted it.

He did what? I put doubt in his mind and he doubted it. You mean what? Say that again. I put doubt in his mind.

Lucifer. And he doubted it. He said I doubted myself. I don't know what to do. Ask him.

He knows what to do. See, if you learn to doubt your doubts, you won't be a doubter no more. Because your doubts have been doubted.

Because you'll learn to doubt your doubts. So I mean, you can do what you want. I'm not moved by what I see. I don't deny what I see. I denied right to exist in my life in every which way, shape or form by calling those things that be not as though they were.

I'm gonna do a little teaching and preaching today. Write this down if you're taking notes. Your faith voice doesn't live in the possible. It speaks and lives in the impossible. Does the impossible and thrives in the impossible.

You see, God don't show up till it's impossible. All the possible stuff is your job. Let me say it again. Your faith voice doesn't live in the possible. It speaks and lives in the impossible.

Does the impossible and thrives in the impossible. Don't tell me I can't do something. But when God said I can do all things through Christ who strengtheneth me. You know I fly all over the world. Now that Jedi there, if you bought it brand new, it's about $60 million.

Paid cash for it.

Don't get mad at me. It ain't my fault. It doesn't make no difference how much something cost is. What you willing to believe? You see what I'm saying?

And the reason why things cost so much when really the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. And when you have the anointing of increase, it's on me, ladies and gentlemen. It's. It's. Don't get mad.

It's on me, man. I gotta watch what I say because I get it. You can ask Jim Morocco that. You'll tell you. Good God, I've never seen a man like it.

Why, I just decided to believe. I don't have doubt in my life whatsoever at all. Because you know, we never read the Bible growing up. If you've been Catholic minded, you know, you the missile, you know what I'm talking about. You didn't read the Bible because only the priest can interpret the Bible.

So when we first started reading the Bible. Catherine never read it till after she got born again. We didn't know about born again, saved. None of that. Those words that didn't compute where I was.

But when I read the word of the Lord, I just accepted it. How many of you knew I was coming tonight? How'd you know? You couldn't see me. You couldn't hear me.

You couldn't touch me. You couldn't smell me. I was not. Remember your five senses. But you came.

Isn't that amazing? And the devil said, you won't make it. I said, no, you won't make it. I've already made it. And when you understand that spiritual, physical, financial, it makes no difference is what is God said.

Do you know what God said concerning you now? I'm going to say some things. Going make you think. Preaching should never supersede thought. It should make you think.

So your faith voice doesn't live in the possible. It speaks and lives in the impossible. Does the impossible and thrives in the impossible. And when God told Abraham, you're going to have. You're going to have.

You're going to have a child through Sarah. But he's 100 years old, so. But Sarah's 90 years old. So it don't make no difference to God. If you think you're going to shake God up when you tell him something.

You're living in a dream world, you see? So when you make your mind up to just believe what he says, then you'll understand this next point. Your faith voice isn't led by time. You see, only say what. You only say what faith says.

Use your faith voice. Your faith voice isn't led by time. See, faith is a listener. Then it says what God says. Never say this.

Never. When the Lord get ready. Lost your mind? He been ready before you were born. Are you playing catch up?

If you think you're trying to catch him. I never say when the Lord get ready. I know in whom I believe. I quit believing years ago. You got people going, I'm believing.

I'm believing. I'm believing. I'm believing. I'm believing. I believe.

I think I'm believing. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm just trying to get that thing to work. Work. Paul said, I know in whom I have believed.

When you know something, nobody can change your mind. Or Roberts, I. You. I knew him real well. He said, I know it in my knower, see?

So your faith voice isn't led by time. Faith is a listener. And then it says what God says. So I never say, when the Lord get ready because he been ready. It's, can I receive what he's already done?

Ah, see, that's the whole thing right there. Let me tell you something. There's nothing you can say or do that will shock him concerning his word. How do you know that? Psalms 89, 34.

My covenant will I not break, nor author the thing that goes out of my lips. If you get God to say something, he can't change his mind. You hold his feet to the fire. For lack of a better way to say it, you don't have to. You just simply believe it.

I've had so many preachers. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, I've been preaching 50 years. I've never had a financial deficit, not one time. How'd you do that? I just believe what he said.

You know how many preachers told me that? Now, wait, boy, I just smiled at the Bible. Don't say that. Well, I know it said, but. No, no, no.

There ain't no but about it at all. I just didn't believe for that. Now, I tell you one thing. They stole my offerings. I ran out of gas when I first started preaching.

You think I got mad? I just got on the road and stuck the thumb out. Sometimes I'm two or three o'clock in the morning. I didn't care. I was so excited that God called me to preach and people would stop, say, young man, I was young.

I actually was young once. I had brown hair, it was.

And man said, what are you doing? I said, well, I ran out of gas. Well, you had no money? No. What do you do?

I'm a preacher. They didn't give you no offering? No. Well, here, let me give you something. On the road, 2:30 in the morning, meet a man you never saw.

700 bucks. By the time I got home, I never had a financial deficit.

Can't own a jet. No, you can't own a jet. God said, I can do how many things? How many things? How many things?

If I didn't have it today, I couldn't have been here. We were supposed to come a couple of weeks back. Kathy's mother went home to be with the Lord and they asked me to preach the funeral. And that's the way. And I appreciate Pastor understanding.

I preached that. And. And I lifted him up, put you in the grave, boy.

She saved. What's the matter with you people? You ought to be shouting.

They couldn't get over her. Said, what, are you sad? What she's in Heaven better than where you are.

My good friend Jerry Savelle. Anybody remember J? He went home to be with the Lord on April 15th. That's the greatest day to go to Jesus. You don't have to pay your taxes.

That's a great day. Oh, Lord, my God, if you're going to go, go. April 15th, buddy. What a blessing of God that is. So I never say when the Lord's getting ready because he's been ready for years, is when I get ready to receive what he said.

See, your faith voice does not make things possible. You're gonna like this, Pastor. It makes things inevitable.

See, it's in. It's inevitable that I be blessed in the city, blessed in the field, blessed going in and blessed going out. I don't care where you live. I don't care what kind of job you got. God will pay you more than anybody will ever pay you in your life.

I expect you to work to misunderstand me because that's an assignment. But. But when you understand. But I tried. No, you don't try.

I'll never forget one time I was marrying this couple, and I asked this boy, do you. Do you really love this woman? He said, well, I'll love her as long as it lasts. I said, sit your ugly self down, boy. I said, don't marry this fool.

I wouldn't marry a fool like that. He's already making a provision for failure. I don't make provisions for failure. Yeah, but suppose. Oh, but suppose it does.

Suppose it don't. Suppose it does. All you do is throw the doubt back to the person that's giving you the doubt. See, your faith voice doesn't make things possible. It makes them inevitable.

It will come to pass no matter what, where or how. Don't let time get in your face. Just keep believing. See, a faith voice always has a creative power in it. It makes you a possessor.

What made Jesus so powerful? He said this. Only say what my father says and only do what my father says to do. I St. John, chapter 12, verses 49 and 50. He said, I only say what my father said.

He's using his faith voice. And I only do what my father says to do. See, it doesn't make any difference. See, just say what he says. How long till you get it?

The Bible said, when you pray, believe that you receive it. He said, when you see it or when you manifest it. He said, when you pray, believe that you receive right there and you shall have it. I just decided to believe that, not bragging on myself, because I Didn't know anything else to believe. When you understand that, see, your faith force has creative power, it makes you possessor a lot of people confessing but never possessing.

I'm a shocker with this. Why am I doing that? I'm going to just. I went up to the Lord a few years ago and I said, lord, you give me a hundred million dollars, I'll touch the world. He said, okay, gave me a hundred million dollars.

I was back the next year, excuse me, I need another hundred million. He said, okay, gave it to me the next year, Said, you need another hundred million. I said, did it? Tell me five times, 500 million bucks cash.

It's not enough. It's going to take trillions and trillions of dollars. My God, the United States got what, a 37, 38 trillion dollar debt. The other day I was talking to a senator and he looked at me and he said, you know, we ain't gonna never be able to pay that debt. I said, well, with that mouth of yours, we won't.

I said, let me show you how to do this. I said, you got the money? You want it? He said, yeah, pull out, put all the bill. He pulled a 20 bill.

I said, now what is it? I said, look at the front of that. It says Federal Reserve note. He said, yes. I said, There's $38 trillion debt on it.

Flip it over. What does it say on the other side in God We Trust? I said, that side's debt free. Now, what side you want to believe? He said, my God.

Can I use that in the Senate? Yeah, if you want to. That side's debt free. I said, you need to quit giving church's grants. That's right.

I like, well, he freaked out, man. What do you mean grants? You know, because, because then they take power over you. You got to do this. I said, you need to tell everybody to quit giving grant and start making donations to churches.

A donation free and click, just give it. I said, you gotta knock out that 38 trillion dollar debt quicker than you ever thought in your life. You see what I'm saying? Because when a donation do a nation don't nation do nation, you don't make no difference. God is not worried if it takes a dollar or it takes a billion dollars.

It didn't make any difference. And when you understand that, see, that's using your faith voice. He couldn't get over that. He said, man, that makes sense. I said, yes, it does.

But you don't want sense. You want dollars.

That's how you pay off a $38 trillion debt not with cents, but with dollars. See, your faith voice has vast sums of energy be used when it's called upon. That's Ephesians, chapter 5, verse 1. Be you therefore, imitators of God as dear children. Can I make this announcement?

Never go to God as an adult. Adults are argumentative. Children are born believers until you teach them to doubt. You tell your children, my God, I'm taking y' all to Disney World in Florida. They'll run down the street, tell everybody going, whoa, Glory.

They forgot. Then Wasilla. That's not their job. Their job is to just believe it.

My daughter's gonna be 55 years old in October, and I've never told her no, not one time. Kathy has. I make Kathy heavy. I said, My granddaughter's 18, and I've never told her no. Now I'm gonna tell you something.

You're gonna have a hard time believing. I've been preaching 50 years, and God has never told me no, not one time. I've never charged churches. Everywhere I go, I receive an offering. I don't charge them because if I told them my expenses, they'd pass out.

But they're not my expenses.

Kenneth Copeland told me one time, jesse, I'd like to know how you pay all them big television bills. I said, that's easy, brother Copeland. Jesus, you got mail.

That's not my bill. No, no, you didn't get it. That's not my bill. That's God. He said, go in the world and preach the gospel to how many creatures?

Evidently, he thinks you can get them all.

Yeah. I never forget. Many, many years ago, I was talking to Marilyn Hickey. She said, my God, Jesse, I just had them all. I said, well, buy one.

And Wally, both of them in heaven now. Wally, go buy one. I said, well, someone bought one. Why can't you buy one?

They bought a mall. And then churches start buying malls. Why? Why not? If heathens can buy one, why can't you buy one?

You can get them real cheap right now. Because everybody going online now. And then you talk about, man. I mean, you could put anything you want in the mall. Churches make great malls make great churches.

You can have youth one of the other in the mouth. And in between all the other stuff, you can have everybody exercising inside, walking around them. Things are great. Yeah, but they cost a lot of money. Yeah, that's no problem to God.

What's a hundredfold on the seed? If you saw my house pastor, there's a. I got a tree that's not 50 foot from me. That's over 400 years old. It's a live oak. Huge.

And it started being an acorn. What is an oak tree but an acorn that held its ground? Squirrel tried to eat it. Get out of here. If you let me grow, you can put your family in my tree.

See, that's using your faith voice. See, when you understand that your faith voice has vast sums of energy be used when it's called upon. See, your faith voice always has a message from God. Write that down. Your faith voice always has a message from God.

That's Isaiah 65. 24. Before you ask, I will answer. And while you're yet speaking, I will hear. How many of y' all believe that?

Then I'm gonna say some more. W. Schambach used to say, you don't have no problems. All you need is faith in God. Amen.

Your faith voice always has a message from God in it. Isaiah 65:24. Before you call, before you ask or call, I will answer. While you're yet speaking, I will hear. If you talk to my daughter Jody, she said, if my dad ever tell you do something, if he said he gonna do, you can take it to bank.

He gonna do what he says. Yeah. I'll give you a prime example. Years ago, JP Morgan Chase. I did some business with him.

I'm also. Do. I do a lot of business myself, you know, make a long story. So besides preaching, he. They brought their gurus down, their financial gurus, you know, to talk to them about where to put some more money at.

Okay. So I listened to him. He said, take your money and do this, this, that, this, that. I said, well, I'll go home, pray about it. They went, I huh?

Cause you. We start using holy language that freak out people, especially on Wall Street. Oh, pray about it. Now, look at the stock. Gotta understand something about Wall Street.

Everybody buying stock believes it's going up. Everybody selling it believes it's going down. There are only two things that work on Wall Street. Faith and fear. The whole place runs on faith and fear.

So I prayed about it, went and went back to the. To the meeting the next week. They said, well, sir, you're gonna do that? I said, no, I ain't doing any of that. I said, the Lord said, do this, this, that, this and that.

Oh, you're gonna lose money. I said, no, no, no, no, no, no. I never lose money. That sounds arrogant, don't it? Don't that sound cocky?

But when you speak in faith, it's gonna sound cocky. A faith voice Sounds cocky. It you don't have that. We just never know what God gonna do. The whole year went Christmas Eve.

I always shop on Christmas Eve. I like Christmas. I like Christmas trees. I like the music and the lights. I didn't like all that, you know.

And I go to the mall on Christmas Eve because most people got their stuff, you know, it's crowded, you know, so I'm walking, just enjoying myself, you know, I mean, just such a blessing. And Kathy shopping. And then I said, kathy, I'm getting kind of tired. I think I'm gonna go home. And she said, okay.

I saw one of my staff and I said, hey, can you bring me down? Okay, boss. Yeah, we bring you home. So Kathy calls me, said, jesse, the vice President of a JPMorgan Chase wants to bring us a gift. I said, what?

Bring us a gift. Do you think I should tell him where we live? I said, kathy, he know where we live. He got all our money. He know where we live.

I said, yeah, come on, send him over. He came to my house and gave me the biggest fruit basket I ever seen in my life. Looked like a coffin. It was as big as a coffin. I had to help him get it in my house.

Grab that thing. Come on. This thing was huge, heavy. Put it in the house. He looked at me, said, reverend, I want to tell you something.

I said, yes, sir. What? I had no idea what he going to say. He said, we're giving this because you've done a lot of business. I said, well, thank you.

He said, you know, you're the only one of our clients that made money this year. Everyone that we told them to do lost money. You made money. I said, I prayed about it. He said, listen, if God talks to you about gold, would you call us?

True story.

What did you do? I was using my faith voice. I was only say what my father says and only do what my father says to do in every which way, shape or form. Because your faith voice always brings has a message from God in it. Yeah.

So Jody, my daughter, just thinks I can do anything. You know what she told me the other day? She said, dad, you the only man I know got a straight shot to God. Now you get up there and tell Jesus to come get us now. I looked at Jody and I said, but I'm doing the best I can, Jody.

I said, but he don't even know. Only the Father knows. Well, you know him too. You get up there, you tell them, I don't want nobody dying.

I said, well, there's a whole generation Won't see death.

Is it you?

Well, we lost a few right there, didn't we? Oh, you think you die because it's your time. Uh, death and life's in the pile of the what? And they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

Why am I going to believe this book is instead of somebody's opinion about it?

I had something happen to me the other day. I'm so excited.

Last time I was here, I was reading, reading glasses. The other day, I was going down the interstate and I did this. Just close and I thought a little fuzzy looking. And I did this. Well, that's a little clearer.

And I never go to doctors. I guess I should. You know what I'm saying, Cassidy? Never had an eye exam in my life. Cassie, you going to get an eye exam?

I mean, I said, I see fine. I'm doing all right. Anyway, I go in, lacey, you got cataracts. I said, I got what? You got cataracts.

I said, cataracts. They said, that's normal for a man your age. I'll be 77 in about three weeks. I said, cataracts. She said, we get rid of that, fix that real good.

We'll give you some new lenses.

Really, I thought to myself, so I met this doctor. Now I don't take no from a person who can't say yes. Remember what I just said there? I will not take no from a person who can't say yes.

So I was supposed to go to this doctor. He calls up his officer, listen, we're supposed to see you at 9:30. Could we just delay you till 2:30? I said, sure, but you gave me some leverage. So when I got in like that and I looked at him and said, doc, I did you a favor.

I was supposed to be here at 9:30, but you couldn't see me. Then you could see it too. I want you to do me a favor because I'm gonna make you an offer you don't refuse.

See, I was raised with La Costa Nostra. I was raised with the mob in New Orleans. You do what you got to do. Alligator got to eat. And I'm serious.

I'm not playing games here. Just the way it was. He just looked at me. He says, well, we'll only do one eye at a time. I said, no, that's not going to happen.

I want you to do both of them at the same time. We got a deal? There he goes, yeah. Kathy says, Monday, when was it? In December?

Monday.

Yeah. I said, good, I see you Monday. It was only a Few days later. Well, I went in there now. Before I was born again, I was a rock entertainer.

Many of you might have known that I worked in the same circuit as Led Zeppelin, Grand Funk, Kiss, ZZ Top, Almond Brothers. You know, I love ZZ Girls. Screaming young people. That was your grandma doing that. Yo, Grandma, you know what?

The bat wings, you know. Yeah. Don't get mad at me in a mini dress. I'm talking short, baby. Your grandma.

Made a lot of money. The most disappointing thing in my life because I thought it would make me happy. Money don't make you happy. It doesn't make you comfortable while you're miserable, but it don't make you happy. Ask Robin Williams.

He committed suicide. And he was filthy rich.

Well, so I'm there. Went to the. I'm going to tell you everything. I had. Ran on a pair of shorts.

I won't tell them. Y' all want to know now. I don't care. I had on a pair of shorts and a T shirt when I went down there because I, you know. So this girl comes in there.

She said, we're gonna have to put a gown on you or something. Kind of, let's take your shirt. Take. You take your shorts off. I said, well, I don't have no underwear on.

She said, don't take your shorts off. I said, okay. You know, it's this kind of shorts that you wear when you're out jogging. You know what I mean? You run into.

Why does that freak y' all out? How many. Y' all don't have no underwear tonight? No, don't. Don't tell me.

Look at Kathy. She freaking out.

So I'm just. The lady's talking to me, and I can kill it. And she said, we have to give you some drugs. She said, it's gonna probably put you to sleep. I said, sweetheart, that ain't enough drug to put anybody asleep.

Before I was born again, before I knew Jesus Christ, I took drugs that never left my house. You have no idea what this body has done. And she went up doing the opera. I'm wide awake. I'm just, hey, man, you know.

And it didn't take long. 10 minutes on each eye, and it was over with. And he put these lenses in there.

So he said. And I look up. I went, my God, the colors are so beautiful. I can see and read small print. I don't need glasses no more.

I'm trying to figure out what other part can I change?

He said, well, I tell you, if you do, you'll never see how Much of a drastic change. It is. I mean, I guess this is a. You can. And the other day, I was preaching at the church, and I got the smallest print Bible I could find.

Remember them Thompson chain Bibles? Those real, real small? Or a Dake's Bible. The print. And I. I sit and I went up to the lady, I said, can you read that note?

I. I could read it like it's nothing. This is great.

I see all Kathy's wrinkles now. I don't care. Don't freak out.

It's going to happen. Look at it. This is my Christmas stocking. That's where I store stuff. It's real loose.

Look, it's loose. It's okay. It doesn't make any difference. Don't laugh. It's coming to you, too.

But God said, before I ask, he will answer.

I believe that, like John 3:16, for God so loved the world, before I ask, he'll answer while I'm yet speaking. Or while He's. While I'm here. He here in everything.

Everything.

Spiritual, physical, financial, every area. How many of you are saved? Hold your hand up. Prove it.

You can't. You have no contract signed by God that when you die, you go to heaven. Right. And nobody can talk you out of it. Why is that?

That's revealed knowledge. Revelation knowledge? That's not sense knowledge. See here, not here. Write this down.

Using your faith force explains what revelation knowledge is and does. See? Faith doesn't use empty words. Let me show you something. Go with me to Second Kings, chapter four.

Going to talk about a Shumanite woman. Second Kings, chapter. I just want to show you something, and then we will pray for you. Women want babies. They like babies.

I like babies, too. There ain't no man can have a baby or a period.

Stupid. None of that craziness.

Those are the intellectuals trying to train your children.

It's so asinine, so ignorant. So watch this. She wants a baby. Now, a woman going to tell you what she think in a second. See, God made man.

And he went, I can do better. And he made woman.

So the prophet said, when? By the time I come back here next year, you're going to have a baby. She said, don't you lie to me. Woman will tell you quick. Don't you lie to me.

I want to start reading with verse.

Verse 22 of 2nd Kings 4. She called unto her husband and said, send me, I pray thee, one of the young men and one of the donkeys, that I may run to the man of God and come again. Now watch how her husband tries to talk her out of it. Verse 23. And he said, wherefore will I go to him today?

It is neither new moon nor Sabbath. And she said in it shall be well. Notice what she said. It shall be well. But the boy's dead.

But it shall be well. No, no, you. No, you don't understand.

The boy's dead. A faith voice don't listen to deadness.

It only says what God says and does what God says to do it. It shall be well. Her husband trying to talk her out of it. Let's read to verse 24. Then she saddled a donkey and said to her servant, drive and go forward.

Slack not thy writing for me, except I bid thee. Verse 25. So she went and came unto the man of God to Mount Carmel. And it came to pass, and the man of God saw her afar off. That he said to Gehaza, his servant, behold yonder, that Shumanite.

Now, he don't know. God don't tell a prophet everything, or a preacher everything. Sometime he does, sometimes he don't. That's God's business. Watch this.

Verse 26. Run now. I pray thee to meet her and say unto her, is it well with thee?

Is it well with thy husband? Is it well with the child? He doesn't know the child's dead. She answered, it is well. In three verses she goes from it shall be well to it is well.

Now, today, if you did that, they say, now you want them faith crazy people can't believe that the boy's dead. She didn't deny he was dead. She said, it shall be well. It is well.

Then you find out how much power Gehazi has. Elijah gives him a stick, go put it on that boy. The problem is the wrong man with the right stick.

He's got the right stick, but he's the wrong man.

You see what I'm saying? That happens quite a bit in ministry. There are a lot of men out there with the right stick, but they're the wrong man or the wrong person. I'm going to just say that the Baptist Southern Baptist Convention says women can't. Pastor, look at me.

Yo mama. Have you forgot that neither male nor female, Jew nor Greek, bond nor free?

Deborah was a judge of Israel, which is a lot higher than a pastor.

That's a prejudice statement. I know what the Apostle Paul said. I mean, you want to talk homiletics, hermeneutics, philosophy, theology. I got three degrees, but that don't mean diddly squat.

You see what I'M saying tongues is not for the day. Well, how did I get it?

How did I get it?

Anybody ever seen anybody healed? Have you seen people lose their healing? How did that happen? Think God took it back? What happened there?

They knew it developed in the spirit, but not in the natural. You have to learn to handle your own natural body after you've been healed.

You see? Said there's always somebody saying what you can't do. When God said you can do how many things, how many, how many what? Part of that you don't understand now, when you're a person, I don't mean it's private like me that doesn't have doubt. I think that's a silly state.

What do you mean? God said I can do all things.

I never forget. When I first got saved, before I was born again, I drank a fifth of whiskey a day. I'd get up in the morning, eat eggs and bacon and drink scotch. 6:37. About 2 o', clock, the fifth was gone.

Then I'd play music at night and drink. Probably another miracle of God, I lived my own doctor said I would have cirrhosis of the liver by the time I was 24. I mean, I drank heavenly. Most rock musicians do. Drank drugs, you know, the whole ball of wax.

Wine, women in song. You name it, I did it. To make a long story short, what happened when I got born again? If you don't like the way you was born, try it again.

It's better the second time around. There won't be nobody pick you up and slap you for it. Oh, my God. I don't know why they slapped them pretty little babies on the butt. What's your problem?

Can't you just rub them a little bit so they can breathe? My God, man. You know, I don't know why you want to hit them. You know what I'm saying? When you understand this, she went in three verses from it shall be worth it is what.

But the boy's still dead. I don't make no difference. I don't care how much money you owe on this church. It don't make a look of difference. You're going to get it.

It's going to happen. I'm not prophesying his God. Delight yourself, therefore in me. I will give you the desire of your heart. And more than that.

One man was mad at me the other day. How much money would it take to shut your mouth? I said $6,364,000,000 and change. You got a check? No.

You want me to tell you what I said. I said shut the hell up. That's not cussing, Jim. That's a location.

Who does this fool think he is?

14 satellites. That's part of that prophecy. You're talking about seven low orbit, seven high orbit and all the other things in between. Everything we've ever done, we've done debt free. See, we had a choice.

Nothing wrong with borrowing money. But we, me and Kathy. Romans 13:8 People owe no man anything, but they love him. Nothing wrong borrowing money. I ain't got no problem borrowing money.

Misunderstanding because somebody borns of sin. Then Abraham was a big sinner because he was the Linda.

But it's kind of nice to be debt free.

So in other words, you're not concerned about nothing. If the economy went bust right now, they couldn't take anything that belongs to Jesse, the Planet's ministry. There's no debt on. We've been debt free since 1982. We just get in the rocker and rock.

My granddaughter thinking about going to college. I said, don't worry about nothing. Your grandfather take care of everything.

She goes, I know why a good man leaves an inheritance for his children's children. That's three generations. Me, Jody and Meredith.

Jody should never spend any of her money. She should be spending mine.

Madison be spending any of her money. John D. Rockefeller Senior made so much money, they still haven't spent his money. Junior hadn't even got close to it and he's dead.

But John D. Rockefeller Senior was a tither, They said he was a shrewd bit of me. He was a heart. No, he was just good business in a personal. It's just business business. When I do business with a friend.

I said, now you're not my friend though, doing this business transaction. You're gonna get your feelings hurt. Let's do business here. You understand?

Kathy works for me now. She's my wife. But from nine to five, she don't give me no lip. Oh, it's a. It's a fact.

I'm. I'll sit in front of it and now my whole staff know it. I'm not her husband, I'm her boss. My daughter works for me. I'm not her daddy.

From nine to five, I'm her boss. You bring all that stuff home to the, to the, to the, to the church or whatever. You're going to have more trouble fighting as a husband and wife. Now, after five o', clock, sometimes I don't go home real quick because she could just eat my lunch because now I'm her husband and she's the CEO of our ministry. And I'll tell you what, they don't give her no lip.

You see what I'm saying? Because, see you. Cause you got to learn to respect money or money will destroy you. You have to respect. That's problem with a lot of people, they don't respect money.

But from nine to five, like, I never thought my entire life that I wouldn't know everything going on in my ministry. Kathy had one of the best things I've ever heard in my life. I walked in, she was having a meeting with my directors. We preach all over the world, see? And I heard her say something that I didn't know.

I said, kathy, I'm CEO. She's CEO. I said, how come I don't know that? She said, that's below your pray, below your pay grade. I said, that's right.

I don't need to know. That's what I got you for. And I walked out and more concerned about it. I wouldn't have put it in that position if she couldn't do it. About three weeks later, I walked back in there.

So having another meeting with the directors, my ministry over different departments and things of that nature. Now, they're dealing with millions of dollars here. Millions. I wish it was a million millions.

What I did know, when I found out they were setting me, they were trying to set me up, and they were all gonna come in and talk to me about something.

So I looked, I said, kathy, when I heard about that, I said, that's above your pay grade. That don't go nowhere but that desk over there. Yeah, we were coming in to kind of share the vision.

She. She didn't get mad. I didn't get mad. This is business. God told me, if you don't run my ministry like a business, you're awaiting bankruptcy.

You're awake. I don't care how anointed you are. That was wrong with the 1947-1958 healing revival. You talk about miracles. You ain't seen miracles like a Allen had.

Jack Cole, William Branham, good God Almighty. I mean, it was amazing. No business sense, no business. They're not even Harley existence today.

Think about that for a minute. So when you understand this is a business, you got a board of directors, you probably have a board of deacons, too. All the kind of different things it takes to this don't just happen. This has to run. You run it like a business.

That way. I don't know why anybody ever want to leave a church. What's the matter with You. Well, I don't like what he said, so. I mean, if your kid comes home, says, I don't like my teacher, I quit.

You can say, shut up, kid. You get back in that school whether you like it or not. A church is a school where you learn.

You don't come just because you like to worship. That's all part of it. You learn. And take this book at face value, and I'll close with this. You will never get maximum of effect unless you use your faith voice.

I want maximum. Now, some people don't believe in a hundredfold. Okay? You don't have to. It's in red.

That's the Jesus part. Some 30, some 60, some a hundredfold. What's this? I got a choice? Here's another one I put before you.

Life and death, blessing and cursing. Choose life. That's what God.

That you and your seed may live, not survive.

Live.

You see the problem? I got to put that. I say it again. I never ask God for a need. Never.

What a waste of spiritual energy. Good God, am I beating your brains out over need when he said he'd supply how many need? How many? Why are you asking for a need?

Answer that.

I don't ask him what I need. Tell him what I need. You know what I do, sweetheart? I tell him what I want. Oh, that's greed.

No, that's growth. The Lord's my shepherd. I shall not.

I don't waste energy on need.

I tell him what I want. And watch this. When you get what you want, you don't even think about need. Oh, when you have what you want, needs, not even in your mind. Yeah, but I don't make a lot of money.

He's not concerned about that a hundredfold. It's not a hundred times. That's mathematics. A hundredfold. Every time you fold it, it doubles.

Then the double, double doubles. Then the double, double, double, double doubles, then the double, double double, and it just goes forever.

You will never get maximum effect unless you use your faith voice. El Shaddai, not el cheapo.

Now, if you. If money's so bad, why did he give you a building worth over $10 million?

Evidently. That must not be bad. He moved upon someone to bless this school.

Now, how long has that building been there? And all this time it was for you. Somebody connected to God.

That's why Jesus was so successful. I only say what my Father says. I only do what my father says to do.

Yeah, when you understand this, that's called using your faith voice, calling those things would be not as though they were till they are. Sarah can't have a baby. She's 90. Some of you ladies better watch out. Look at some of these men.

Yeah, it don't make no difference to God. Can I tell you one more thing? And I'm gonna close. This is my second closing by my last one, I promise. Look, he.

He preached longer than I did. It's my turn now. And I enjoyed every bit of it. It was a blessing. A lady comes up.

I was praying. This is in Crowley, Louisiana.

I said, there's a lady here tonight that wants a baby. Boom. This woman jumps, comes running up. I want a baby. And I, I.

Her husband came. He was. She had to pull him up there, you know, and he looked like. And in my mind, I thought, maybe you don't want a baby. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know. I don't know any business. None of my business. I prayed for Bam. She got knocked out.

The Holy Ghost. I never thought nothing about it. Her husband's still like this, looking at her on the floor. But it's confused. Look in his mind and his faith.

I didn't ask. I went on praying for people. Think I came back the next year. When I came back a year to the exact date, 12 months. She brought one of the fattest little baby boys I ever saw in my life.

You ever seen, with the pleats on the arms, the pleats.

And she comes, grabs that baby in front of everybody. A crowd about this side. She said, look what you did. I said, nah, I didn't do that. No, no, no, I didn't do it.

You know, you laid hands on me. No, I did not neither. No, no, no, wait. Whoa. We.

We got to fix this here real quick. And there was a very well dressed man standing with him. All three of them came up, and I said, sarah, husband, I want to ask you something. When I asked if she wanted a baby, you look like you didn't want this baby. He said, sir, my wife's had a total hysterectomy.

She has no ovaries, nothing. She had endometriosis. Destroyed her body.

No, nothing cleaned out. I look at the guy with the suit on. I said, who are you? He said, I'm the doctor that took her organs out. And here's her medical record.

She said, I could show it. I need to meet this Jesus.

Would you pray for me? That's a true story. I'll never forget it, man. I'm the doctor that took out her organs. That don't make no God and give you a second set, if that's what you want.

Yeah, let me explain. So you don't understand. I had a wonderful woman. She was 79 at that time. She said, brother Jess, I'm a woman of faith.

I said, I could tell you, she said, but I got this knee of mine. I've been believing God fit to be healed. And he. I just can't. I get healed all the time, but I can't seem to get the healing for this knee.

I said, because your knee's not sick. She said, what? I said, your knee's not sick. It just wore out. Get a new one.

Yeah, I never thought of that. I met her six months later walking in the mall. I mean, just walking in the mall. I mean, going at it. She got a new.

It wasn't sick of God. He let. Yeah, but it was worn out. Just get a new one. I thought about this cataract.

I never know that could happen. I said, let's see if this will work.

Sometimes God works that way. If that's what you want, you know, doesn't make any difference, you know? And, man, I saw that. I saw her not long ago. She's 83, still at the mall.

She said. I said, how's your knee, girl? Oh, Lord. She said, that devil was condemning me because I didn't think. I knew.

My faith worked, but I could. I said, when you told me my knee wasn't sick, it just wore out. It. It hit.

So now with technology, you'll get something done if you want. If you don't, you don't have to. I mean, you do whatever you want to do. I don't have a problem with doctors and hospitals and medicines, you know, I like getting healed because it's a lot cheaper, you know, it's a lot cheaper, but that's all right.

You will never get maximum effect unless you use your faith voice.

How do I make that faith most powerful? Pray the word, study the word and quote the word. We do that every day. Pray, study and quote. I see some of these young people here on.

On the third. Young? I don't know how old you girls are. How old are you, Sweetheart? Oh, you're 18.

I used to be 18. What you laughing at? See what you're gonna look like. No, no, I'm just joking. How old are you, sweetheart?

21. How old are you, young man? 17.

How about you? Yeah, it's the best part of your life, but I'm gonna help you. It don't last long.

Young don't not. Does not last long. My granddaughter, she made 18. I had Kathy text her. I said, tell Meredith that we have no more children in our family.

She's an adult now. She's 18. Which means you can get sued.

That's a fact.

Well, we took. I took them out to Easter and I looked at Meredith. I only have one daughter, one granddaughter. I said, meredith, how does it feel to be an adult? She said, grandfather always called me grandfather.

Grandfather is great. I said, give her the bill.

Oh, Grandfather, you can't do that. I said, welcome to my world, baby. You're an adult. No, I didn't do it. But I mean, I said, did that shock you?

That's what adults do.

Growing to the fullness of the statue of Christ.

The first pastor ever had told me was worried about me getting around booze. Remember that brother Rafer? He said, you drank so much me, I don't want you to fall.

Fall. And I had just read Second Corinthians, 5, 17. You got to remember, he's talking to a man with no doubt. I never learned a doubt. I know nothing.

I said, brother Rayford, he says, therefore, if anybody be in Christ, he's a new creature. Old things have passed away. Behold, all things become new. Why are you worried about old things? He busted out crying.

He said, jesse, you only been saved less than a year. You know more about this than I do. I said, I do. I just read and I believed it.

How can you fly that plane all over? Just a minute. They're going to receive an offer. Don't let this move you. It cost me just in few to come here tonight.

Over $32,000.

You see me blink.

That's not. He didn't ask me to pay for it. He asked me to believe for it. Now, the offering that you're going to give the Amisha, they ain't going to that. I'll take care of that.

Ain't worried about that.

It's going to reach people, change lives one soul at a time.

My biggest partner called the other day. I'm trying to shut up, but she said, I'm not gonna pray anymore for you to have millions. She gave me 15 and a half million dollars to make ministry one person.

I'm going to start praying for you to have billions. Now, I know they got a lot of money, but I don't know how much. You know, it's none of my business. I know. She said, I want to be your first billion dollar donor.

You know what's the first thing I thought of? Billion dollars. Tithe and that's 100 million. Could we spread that around? Pretty sure I take care of this building.

It would not surprise me in the least.

God, even his junk is valuable. If we could grab an asteroid. So worried about him hitting the planet because it can kill the planet. But it's got so much gold and silver and magnesium, titanium and diamond. Everything you can think of.

They're worth trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars. And it's his garbage because it never developed the planet. It's just the asteroid Supposed to develop a planet. It's his garbage. And you worried about your light bill or your school tuition?

Do you know how big he is?

See, everybody knows what they need, but they don't know what they want.

I know exactly what I want.

One more. One of my people that work for me, my evangelism department said there was a thing about six months ago, or a lot of it. It was worth a billion or $2 billion. Something. I don't know if you might have seen that.

Somebody won the thing anyway. I don't know. And they called me boss. Boss, if you won that lottery, what would you buy?

I said, nothing. No, no, no, no. What would you buy? Nothing. Have everything I can possibly think of.

I'm not lying now. I'm getting this anointing, and my spiritual sons are getting blessed. Put this anointing on you. When Pastor received this, you know, you don't. It's not how big you give, it's your obedience to it.

It's my favorite time of the mint of the. Of the service is giving. You know why God said, jesse, do you know who I am? I said, yeah. No, no.

He said, I'm God, man. I don't need nothing if it's not there. Just create it. And you want to give me something? I said, yeah, because I want to.

I told him the other day in prayer. I said, I don't know if tithing is in heaven or not, but I'd like to start it when I get there. And I don't know how it's such an honor. I bought Kat something not long ago. She said, jessie, it's not my anniversary.

Not my anniversary, not my birthday. Nothing special. I said, well, you are.

What I'm gonna do with this. I've asked the Lord for every dollar given to my ministry. Give me a soul. He's doing that. Ladies and gentlemen, promise you my Last statement from January 2020 to the end of this is June, right?

May of 2026. I've had over 125 million people. Contact my office. We're working 247 right now just to service that. I don't have time to retire.

To what? Play golf?

Uh, Jesus tarries. I'm gonna die in the saddle. I'm gonna preach this glorious gospel.

Well, I hope you were encouraged by God's word. Thank you again for listening to Kings Alaska podcast. God bless you. For more great content, go to Casey Alaska.com and may God's face shine upon you and give you peace.